and for a jupiter-mars-venus tangle


‘will those birds just shut up?!’ d sinclair all rights reserved ’08

“King Mark’s refusal to marry is an ominous symbol. In myth or dream the king’s failure to take a queen and produce an heir symbolises a refusal of wholeness, a refusal to grow, a refusal of the destiny that comes in the form of a new child.”

(Robert A Johnson on the myth of Tristan and Iseult, The Psychology of Romantic Love)

12 thoughts on “and for a jupiter-mars-venus tangle

  1. The Scorpio moon has done my sleeping patterns in. Glad that its finally moved in the far more chilled out Sag. Was the moon particularly bright and intense in your neck of the woods. It managed to find its way through the blinds and light up all our bedrooms.

    Does the current trend away from marriage say something about wholeness – or is it a redifinition of what we perceive to be whole … whole in self rather than finding wholeness in being with another?

  2. The Scorpio moon has done my sleeping patterns in. Glad that its finally moved in the far more chilled out Sag. Was the moon particularly bright and intense in your neck of the woods. It managed to find its way through the blinds and light up all our bedrooms.

    Does the current trend away from marriage say something about wholeness – or is it a redifinition of what we perceive to be whole … whole in self rather than finding wholeness in being with another?

  3. not altogether sure about that Jodi, which is why I haven’t written an essay…

    ..’as within, so without’… actual marriage is an outward expression of an inner state..

    yes we have redefined what we view as whole – our ‘independence’, though, is it really wholeness?

    A lot to ponder on this subject!

  4. not altogether sure about that Jodi, which is why I haven’t written an essay…

    ..’as within, so without’… actual marriage is an outward expression of an inner state..

    yes we have redefined what we view as whole – our ‘independence’, though, is it really wholeness?

    A lot to ponder on this subject!

  5. I remember our group facilitator saying during our blood mysteries course that agreeing to marriage was agreeing to take on the karma of your partner … which is I remember thinking at the time is a pretty profound committment to make (above and beyond what we traditionally have viewed marriage as!)

    I do like what you say in terms of ‘as within, so without’ – it leaves lots for me to ponder as I have no desire to officially seal my partnership with Dave. Have always felt that its all a bit false.

    Independence smacks of separateness so perhaps its not really wholeness. What I was thinking was the people often seek out (as I did when I was younger) someone to fill the void in them, rather than filling the void themselves … so perhaps you need to find a wholeness within – before you can find wholeness without … which means I’ve obviously still got much work to do!!

    Catherine and I had a great time gadding about town today, eating, drinking coffee, juice, getting lost etc. And I even got to meet both her daughter! Wish we could have had you tagging along also.

  6. I remember our group facilitator saying during our blood mysteries course that agreeing to marriage was agreeing to take on the karma of your partner … which is I remember thinking at the time is a pretty profound committment to make (above and beyond what we traditionally have viewed marriage as!)

    I do like what you say in terms of ‘as within, so without’ – it leaves lots for me to ponder as I have no desire to officially seal my partnership with Dave. Have always felt that its all a bit false.

    Independence smacks of separateness so perhaps its not really wholeness. What I was thinking was the people often seek out (as I did when I was younger) someone to fill the void in them, rather than filling the void themselves … so perhaps you need to find a wholeness within – before you can find wholeness without … which means I’ve obviously still got much work to do!!

    Catherine and I had a great time gadding about town today, eating, drinking coffee, juice, getting lost etc. And I even got to meet both her daughter! Wish we could have had you tagging along also.

  7. I’m presently processing scads of ‘stuff’ from kineosology visit and today another deep tissue massage with the wry Scorp massage dude with the freaking incredible hands. Love the image at this blog entry.Yet the quote evokes the ‘marriage’ model I grew up watching.

    Whilst growing up, my sometimes fierce Aries Mum was adamant that regardless of how much she loved/loves my Dad and would mourn him if something ever happened to him, she would not crumple, that joining her life with his via marriage did not mean being consumed…they’ve been married almost 45 years now. Mum say’s she tries to treat Dad with the same freshness of courtesy she would afford a guest and vis a versa…’cept every day it’s new yet underpinned with the understanding for them it’s a lifetime commitment.I look on slightly bewildered as it works for them.It’s has a surreal 1950’s feel sometimes but with a soundtrack from riotous local theatre musical.

    I think they are both independent and whole together and seperately…as they age I feel that more co-dependence is evident, it is starting to sustain their wholeness rather than youthful vigor…I wonder what role feeling more vulnerable, more mortal plays to their independence.

    In reference to Jodi and my excellent adventures, the thing I found most amusing about getting ‘lost’ , was we found a more direct route…and Danae you were there at least in spirit.Somehow the admiration of your writing came up and Jodi very maturely refers to you as wise, me I’m all for seeing you as scary smart.(in a good way)

    Catherine

  8. Perhaps while in deep processing mode I should just steer clear of blog comments.After clicking publish realised at least some of what I’ve said sounds flaky twee.Scary Smart….hmm Apologies.

    Catherine

  9. you’re a sweetheart Catherine… no need to think about being flaky or twee…you’re not…and you’re not alone in saying I’m scary smart either!

    glad you both had a good day and thanks for the lovely words of praise dx

  10. you’re a sweetheart Catherine… no need to think about being flaky or twee…you’re not…and you’re not alone in saying I’m scary smart either!

    glad you both had a good day and thanks for the lovely words of praise dx

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